WHAT ARE YOUR NEW THOUGHTS ABOUT SETH LUISI?

[LUKENBACHER]

I for one kinda bought into the "negative hype" surrounding Confrontation and Seth.

But I will be honest, I really didn't know his exact involvement with Socom, and blamed him for everything "wrong" like alot of us did.


I was thoroughly impressed with Seth's interview on Zipline 9.
The guy made me a little more optimistic about Socom 4, and provided some insight on exactly what his involvement was to the series.

It definitely "cleared the air" for me, and I found myself feeling a bit guilty for all the misguided frustration I sent his way,
especially on Confrontation.


What are your thoughts Community?


Did some of your opinions change?

Do you still hate Seth?

Share your thoughts below!

[WarMachine_v1]

You know this already but for those who don't... I believe he never deserved the shit he got and I really stand by this after hearing the podcast. (short and simple lol)

[spacegerbil1]

I can't believe he didn't say what he has to say sooner. I enjoyed his own bashing of confrontation. It was also interesting to know he wasn't that directly involved with Socom 3 or CA

[lefantom9]

I didn't even know that he is the "creator" of socom he basicly created the series.

[bigfred18]

I feel bad for all the bashing i did to him.
I have new respect for him and he gave me new hope for Socom 4.

[[BER]PAUL-AWOL-]

I always knew he had major influences on Socom, but didn't know he was that in depth with the initial creation. I took from his podcast he wants the fans to know he was aware Socom Confrontation on release was a flop and he was sorry, which I highly respected him for that, but it is a day late and dollar short. The Socom 2 statement should have been left out IMO. He may have lost credit with some ol skool die hards, because those who were fighting for Socom2 HD bascially got all of it thrown back in their faces as if it was a big, I told you so. My point being I didn't want all the kids who were opposed to this to start in on Ol Skool Fans and boast they were right, which "Dirty_Walter" did the next day with his exact word for word comment from Seth. But all in all it was a good thing Seth did, and his comments were geared towards a man on a Socom 4 mission for the time being.

[HTK]

SOCOM II HD is all up to Sony not Zipper or Seth. So there is still a chance considering there is a huge demand where Sony feels like they can earn money they put into the Remake...

[r_e_v]

I've had respect for the guy for a long time.

Sure I made a few jokes along the way, but never hated him or joined the bandwagon.

The Zipline Podcast only strengthened my respect.

[wildturkey101]

knowing that he was the one that basically tuned the weapons in socom 1 makes me a bit excited! Hoping we get that hit detection back! I like how he talk about confrontation being a failure, I was kinda shocked that he talked about that. But all in all, i have more respect for the guy.

[McNoob]

This is what I think

[LUKENBACHER]

Jun 29, 2010 13:24:52 GMT -5 McNoob said:

This is what I think

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[BULLBOYKENNELS]

Totally gave me a whole new perspective of the guy for sure, but then again I was never one to flame him but surely made me have a new respect for him.

[[LMB] SpecterMk23]

I respect him for creating the series (million dollar phone call ftw), but that still doesn't change the fact that he's lied to us in the past on several occasions.

So I don't know what to think of him really.

[schwinn04]

He can say whatever he likes on there, how many of us really know the truth. It's not like they are going to call him out for being a liar, so I take what he says with a grain of salt.

He sat there and said I did all these thing, but uhh I'm not trying to credit for all that is SOCOM's success, sure sounded like you were Seth.

[LUKENBACHER]

Jun 29, 2010 14:26:15 GMT -5 [LMB] SpecterMk23 said:

I respect him for creating the series (million dollar phone call ftw), but that still doesn't change the fact that he's lied to us in the past on several occasions.

So I don't know what to think of him really.

Some call it lies.


Others like myself label it as "expectations Slant 6 couldn't achieve".

[[$K$] BOOMxSTICK]

Jun 29, 2010 13:37:52 GMT -5 LUKENBACHER said:

Jun 29, 2010 13:24:52 GMT -5 McNoob said:

This is what I think

Ladies & Gentlemen!

I am pleased to announce......

Dr McNoob's FIRST EVA! SocomIV.com "Paint Picture"!

It's like cracking a bottle of champagne on the boats hull when she first touches the water.

Our forums are OFFICIAL. Thanks McNoob!

lol mcnoob!

lol luke for the pirate pun

[HTK]

Jun 29, 2010 14:30:24 GMT -5 schwinn04 said:

He can say whatever he likes on there, how many of us really know the truth. It's not like they are going to call him out for being a liar, so I take what he says with a grain of salt.

He sat there and said I did all these thing, but uhh I'm not trying to credit for all that is SOCOM's success, sure sounded like you were Seth.

Good Point, at the end of the day we'll never really know what goes on behind closed doors.

[LUKENBACHER]

Jun 29, 2010 14:31:48 GMT -5 [$K$] BOOMxSTICK said:

Jun 29, 2010 13:37:52 GMT -5 LUKENBACHER said:

Ladies & Gentlemen!

I am pleased to announce......

Dr McNoob's FIRST EVA! SocomIV.com "Paint Picture"!

It's like cracking a bottle of champagne on the boats hull when she first touches the water.

Our forums are OFFICIAL. Thanks McNoob!

lol mcnoob!

lol luke for the pirate pun

I was hoping someone out there would catch that cleverly hidden analogy.

Kudos Boom!

[Philz20]

I put more of the blame on him, but I kept in mind that there are others making the decisions as well. I'm glad he went on Zipline to clarify what his roles were in the past SOCOMs.

[HTK]

Apparently he was more involved during SOCOM 1 and SOCOM 2 than SOCOM 3, CA and Confrontation all games that failed in our views. Now he's back with SOCOM 4, I do have some hope once again.

[Cyanide]

Never really blamed anyone.

Everyone in "the biz" is an asshole.

[quickndeadly]

I really respect him for just laying it all out there on the table and really exposed a lot of what goes on behind the scenes when making a game. To man up about confrontation the way he did and really let it be known he wasn't happy with the way things turned out, but still fought to try and make the end product a decent game is admirable. Its good to know the thought process behind the games that he's a part of and that he cares about the socom series just as much as any of us do.

[[$K$] BOOMxSTICK]

quickndeadly, yea he did show that he cares about socom as much as the rest of us. And i appreciate that more than anything else.

[pulsedx]

I feel that Seth is doing a good job for the SOCOM series. He has for one created the best series in gaming.

[[PAs] IDEVILMANI]

I think he is lameish, or even mediocre.
Here he is, taking credit for creating an excellent series, but then selling out and having it changed by the higher ups to make it more profitable. IF he was really passionate about the series, he would be telling them to go screw themselves and making the way he wants it made. And he would have told Sony to NOT even think about releasing Confrontation until it was up to his standards.